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Post by firemantiz on Jun 10, 2009 12:26:45 GMT
we as a group have just been refused the use of a blood pressure monitor, is any other group using one?
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Post by marjar on Jun 10, 2009 12:30:37 GMT
Not in Suffolk. I believe it is considered to be an 'invasive' technique.
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Post by barryphillips on Jun 10, 2009 15:13:28 GMT
I'm not so sure how accurate the automated ones are anyway... Paramedics rely on their ears and an old fashioned cuff...
One thing we should carry & use is an automatic thermometer ?
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Post by marjar on Jun 10, 2009 15:40:35 GMT
Just a thought - I can see how taking and recording all these observations add to the big picture and would perhaps help in the handover process but beyond that what could we do as CFR's with the information collected?
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Post by ffharvey0808 on Jun 10, 2009 17:34:45 GMT
We were told we don't use them either, but I prefer to use the cuff and steph anyway.
And whilst we may not be able to do anything with the information other then use it as another sign for shock (varying BP's can obviously be indicative of alot of other conditions) it is helpful for the oncoming crews to know if a patients BP is stable/increasing/decreasing and if you are waiting a while for crews then it can be useful to see whether any interventions you have done are helping the patient - checking BP is one way of checking a patients well being.
Whether or not different trusts will see it as a necessary skill for a CFR I don't know.
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Post by 95622468 on Jun 11, 2009 20:27:44 GMT
You don't need any of these tests, they will not change the management of the condition that you are presented with. With the limited kit responders carry, what will change in your treatment based on a BP or temp?
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Post by bungle on Jun 11, 2009 22:09:50 GMT
You don't need any of these tests, they will not change the management of the condition that you are presented with. With the limited kit responders carry, what will change in your treatment based on a BP or temp? UTTER NONSENSE!! |
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Post by ffharvey0808 on Jun 12, 2009 7:41:20 GMT
You don't need any of these tests, they will not change the management of the condition that you are presented with. With the limited kit responders carry, what will change in your treatment based on a BP or temp? So you are saying that a more detailed history for a handover isn't something that a responder has in his limited kit?? With the time periods some responders are waiting for crews, why not do a BP as something else to handover when they arrive? A cuff and steth don't take up that much room. If its the skill they are worried about thats a seperate issue. |
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Post by tally911 on Feb 24, 2010 20:48:03 GMT
I know this post is over a year old......but using the BP and temperature can tell you if the patient is going into shock........and we all should know what to do in this situation.
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Post by Confused on Jan 4, 2015 2:32:51 GMT
You don't need any of these tests, they will not change the management of the condition that you are presented with. With the limited kit responders carry, what will change in your treatment based on a BP or temp? So you are saying that a more detailed history for a handover isn't something that a responder has in his limited kit?? With the time periods some responders are waiting for crews, why not do a BP as something else to handover when they arrive? A cuff and steth don't take up that much room. If its the skill they are worried about thats a seperate issue. It is vital that you take blood pressure, pulse rate and breathing rate on a continued basis while waiting for transport. This will help determine patients condition is improving, getting worse or staying the same. |
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